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salut à tous.
En quelle année, elle a était arrété,si je ne me trompe pas c'est bien l'ancétre la cz 452?
En quelle année, elle a était arrété,si je ne me trompe pas c'est bien l'ancétre la cz 452?
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Re: renseignement brno mod 1
Hi Oliver;
Oui les BRNO sont les anciennes CZ.
Les Brno ont été déclinées en de multiple versions de la 1 à la 5 et cela depuis 1946 à 1970.
La véritable model 1 est rare, fabriquée de 1945 à 1950, c’est du genre MAUSER 45 - MAS 45, bref ce model 1 a été fabriqué avec des éléments deMauser.
Ce premier type est recherché s’il porte les poinçons tgf (tfg et aussi un t dans un cercle avant le numéro de série.
Source d’un spécialiste ricain :
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tgf Initially "Tschechische Gewehr Fabrik" (German) for Czech Rifle Factory, ie, ZB (Brno). Confirmed this information in 1993 dureing discussions with one of the senior consultants ( in standing and age) at S&B in 1993, during a visit to the ammo factory.
tgf was used from 1948 to 1950 , mostly for East German exports. besides being on Kar98k rifles, it is also found on Brno Model 1 Trainers ( also with Military acceptance marks) and other weaponry.
In 1950, in keeping with Soviet block "Secrecy codes", other factories were given three letter codes, using a single letter shift (up or down the alphabet), so we have "she" (CZ Uhersky Brod) and "rid"(CZ Strakonice?).
The ammo factories started with S&B being "bxn"; there are also ammo factories with "aym" and "czo". "aym" also figures on some weapons as well.
Other Military equipment factories in the former CSSR follow suit in this three letter code system.
For non-Soviet export, S&B reverted to the old "pre-war" "Z" headstamp, using the "ZV" (Zbrojovka Vlasim"-- Arsenal Vlasim, the town where S&B is located)) on export military 7,62 Nato and other calibres.
Most probably the majority of exports to the DDR were marked "tgf" by co-incidence rather than design.
The Czech Coding system derives from the Three-letter German pre-1945 codes, although the German codes were rarely logical or ordered, but sometimes referred obliquely to the name of the original owner of the code, but mostly they were purely chance arrangements, although certain initial letters referred to particular countries ("j" starts all Hungarian Codes).
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Autrement les BRNO sont très cotées et considérées comme plus précises que les CZ (une histoire de fabrication de canon).
Bien sur pour des armes en excellent état et pas lessivées.
Adishatz¨˜”°º•(¯`•._.• CALICOBA™ •._.•´¯)•º°”˜¨
Oui les BRNO sont les anciennes CZ.
Les Brno ont été déclinées en de multiple versions de la 1 à la 5 et cela depuis 1946 à 1970.
La véritable model 1 est rare, fabriquée de 1945 à 1950, c’est du genre MAUSER 45 - MAS 45, bref ce model 1 a été fabriqué avec des éléments deMauser.
Ce premier type est recherché s’il porte les poinçons tgf (tfg et aussi un t dans un cercle avant le numéro de série.
Source d’un spécialiste ricain :
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tgf Initially "Tschechische Gewehr Fabrik" (German) for Czech Rifle Factory, ie, ZB (Brno). Confirmed this information in 1993 dureing discussions with one of the senior consultants ( in standing and age) at S&B in 1993, during a visit to the ammo factory.
tgf was used from 1948 to 1950 , mostly for East German exports. besides being on Kar98k rifles, it is also found on Brno Model 1 Trainers ( also with Military acceptance marks) and other weaponry.
In 1950, in keeping with Soviet block "Secrecy codes", other factories were given three letter codes, using a single letter shift (up or down the alphabet), so we have "she" (CZ Uhersky Brod) and "rid"(CZ Strakonice?).
The ammo factories started with S&B being "bxn"; there are also ammo factories with "aym" and "czo". "aym" also figures on some weapons as well.
Other Military equipment factories in the former CSSR follow suit in this three letter code system.
For non-Soviet export, S&B reverted to the old "pre-war" "Z" headstamp, using the "ZV" (Zbrojovka Vlasim"-- Arsenal Vlasim, the town where S&B is located)) on export military 7,62 Nato and other calibres.
Most probably the majority of exports to the DDR were marked "tgf" by co-incidence rather than design.
The Czech Coding system derives from the Three-letter German pre-1945 codes, although the German codes were rarely logical or ordered, but sometimes referred obliquely to the name of the original owner of the code, but mostly they were purely chance arrangements, although certain initial letters referred to particular countries ("j" starts all Hungarian Codes).
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Autrement les BRNO sont très cotées et considérées comme plus précises que les CZ (une histoire de fabrication de canon).
Bien sur pour des armes en excellent état et pas lessivées.
Adishatz¨˜”°º•(¯`•._.• CALICOBA™ •._.•´¯)•º°”˜¨
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